Comments on: Why Flash on the iPhone/iPad doesn’t solve #mLearning http://www.mozealous.com/why-flash-on-the-iphoneipad-doesnt-solve-mlearning/ Articulate technology and tech usability. Mon, 12 Jul 2010 19:43:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Dave Mozealous http://www.mozealous.com/why-flash-on-the-iphoneipad-doesnt-solve-mlearning/comment-page-1/#comment-2593 Dave Mozealous Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:07:58 +0000 http://www.mozealous.com/?p=847#comment-2593 @Lesiu, I think the usage of Java in production LMS's is higher than you think. I know a great deal of our customers are still using legacy Learning Management Systems that still rely on Java, and yes, I know the differences between Java and Java script. The LMS market has been slow to adopt new standards and technologies in general, as you can see by the SCORM 1.2 (2001) adoption rate being so much higher than SCORM 2004. Fewer modern LMS's use Java, but many people purchased them when it was en-vogue to use Java. As to your statements about Flash being king, it isn't on mobile devices, which was the point of the article. I still have yet to see in person any mobile device running Flash, so although 98% of desktop computers run Flash, I am guessing less than %1 mobile devices do. So yeah, the fact that 98% of desktop machines have the Flash player make it a great platform for eLearning on Desktops, but it doesn't for mobile platforms until/if we see such high adoption on mobile. -Dave @Lesiu,

I think the usage of Java in production LMS’s is higher than you think. I know a great deal of our customers are still using legacy Learning Management Systems that still rely on Java, and yes, I know the differences between Java and Java script. The LMS market has been slow to adopt new standards and technologies in general, as you can see by the SCORM 1.2 (2001) adoption rate being so much higher than SCORM 2004. Fewer modern LMS’s use Java, but many people purchased them when it was en-vogue to use Java. As to your statements about Flash being king, it isn’t on mobile devices, which was the point of the article. I still have yet to see in person any mobile device running Flash, so although 98% of desktop computers run Flash, I am guessing less than %1 mobile devices do.

So yeah, the fact that 98% of desktop machines have the Flash player make it a great platform for eLearning on Desktops, but it doesn’t for mobile platforms until/if we see such high adoption on mobile.

-Dave

]]> By: Lesiu http://www.mozealous.com/why-flash-on-the-iphoneipad-doesnt-solve-mlearning/comment-page-1/#comment-2592 Lesiu Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:34:20 +0000 http://www.mozealous.com/?p=847#comment-2592 Informations in this post aren't true. At first - LMS use JavaScript API for tracking less Java. At second - there is no problem in Flash. This is very mature and flexible technology which based not only on video but many other features. At third - there is no need to install plug-in. 98 on 100 users have installed :) Flash still is the king. Informations in this post aren’t true. At first – LMS use JavaScript API for tracking less Java. At second – there is no problem in Flash. This is very mature and flexible technology which based not only on video but many other features.
At third – there is no need to install plug-in. 98 on 100 users have installed :)
Flash still is the king.

]]> By: Craig Geromi http://www.mozealous.com/why-flash-on-the-iphoneipad-doesnt-solve-mlearning/comment-page-1/#comment-2482 Craig Geromi Mon, 01 Mar 2010 07:17:26 +0000 http://www.mozealous.com/?p=847#comment-2482 The moral of this article and the whole iPad, iPhone, iTouch Flash controversy is that we are relying on Flash way to much! Flash is good and has many many uses BUT it's not the ONLY thing that can be used to portray mobile learning. Many web site companies have adapated to the no Flash uses and have created great web sites, for instance, www.wunderground.com. This site has a specific mobile interface and I find it very easy to navigate through. Why can't the elearning companies work there way around Flash like wunderground did? I think the answer is due to laziness and conformity Flash. This blog mentioned that it was Adobe who was lazy and that there administration is lazy. This may be true, but the elearning developers are just as lazy for not coming up with a solution other than trying to convince Flash to be used on mobile devices. In closing, I want to say Adobe is not the one to blame here, it's the elearning developers and the mobile device makers. And Dave, I wouldn't worry to much about your stock. Adobe is a strong company with a bright future, don't be so hard on them. The moral of this article and the whole iPad, iPhone, iTouch Flash controversy is that we are relying on Flash way to much! Flash is good and has many many uses BUT it’s not the ONLY thing that can be used to portray mobile learning. Many web site companies have adapated to the no Flash uses and have created great web sites, for instance, http://www.wunderground.com. This site has a specific mobile interface and I find it very easy to navigate through. Why can’t the elearning companies work there way around Flash like wunderground did? I think the answer is due to laziness and conformity Flash. This blog mentioned that it was Adobe who was lazy and that there administration is lazy. This may be true, but the elearning developers are just as lazy for not coming up with a solution other than trying to convince Flash to be used on mobile devices. In closing, I want to say Adobe is not the one to blame here, it’s the elearning developers and the mobile device makers. And Dave, I wouldn’t worry to much about your stock. Adobe is a strong company with a bright future, don’t be so hard on them.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.mozealous.com/why-flash-on-the-iphoneipad-doesnt-solve-mlearning/comment-page-1/#comment-2480 Patrick Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:46:12 +0000 http://www.mozealous.com/?p=847#comment-2480 Flash on the iPad would make for a very beneficial m-learning tool. Although Flash is currently not supported on the iPad or iPhone, that doesn't mean developers and designers should write off the iPad as a bad m-learning device. I think Philip makes a good point when saying m-learning needs HTML support, solid CSS support, and solid JavaScript support. Flash on the iPad would make for a very beneficial m-learning tool. Although Flash is currently not supported on the iPad or iPhone, that doesn’t mean developers and designers should write off the iPad as a bad m-learning device. I think Philip makes a good point when saying m-learning needs HTML support, solid CSS support, and solid JavaScript support.

]]> By: Why Flash on the iPhone/iPad doesn’t always help mLearning « CJ's eLearning Blog http://www.mozealous.com/why-flash-on-the-iphoneipad-doesnt-solve-mlearning/comment-page-1/#comment-2388 Why Flash on the iPhone/iPad doesn’t always help mLearning « CJ's eLearning Blog Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:57:35 +0000 http://www.mozealous.com/?p=847#comment-2388 [...] via Why Flash on the iPhone/iPad doesn’t solve #mLearning. [...] [...] via Why Flash on the iPhone/iPad doesn’t solve #mLearning. [...]

]]> By: Articulate Community Recap - Articulate – Word of Mouth Blog http://www.mozealous.com/why-flash-on-the-iphoneipad-doesnt-solve-mlearning/comment-page-1/#comment-2359 Articulate Community Recap - Articulate – Word of Mouth Blog Fri, 05 Feb 2010 19:02:27 +0000 http://www.mozealous.com/?p=847#comment-2359 [...] Thoughts on the iPad from Articulate QA Manager Dave Mozealous [...] [...] Thoughts on the iPad from Articulate QA Manager Dave Mozealous [...]

]]> By: Andrew Scivally http://www.mozealous.com/why-flash-on-the-iphoneipad-doesnt-solve-mlearning/comment-page-1/#comment-2342 Andrew Scivally Wed, 03 Feb 2010 06:55:35 +0000 http://www.mozealous.com/?p=847#comment-2342 I'm just skipping Flash on the phone and waiting for holograms that project into the air. (with a "scratch and sniff" plugin) Great info Dave! I’m just skipping Flash on the phone and waiting for holograms that project into the air. (with a “scratch and sniff” plugin) Great info Dave!

]]> By: Philip Hutchison http://www.mozealous.com/why-flash-on-the-iphoneipad-doesnt-solve-mlearning/comment-page-1/#comment-2337 Philip Hutchison Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:09:34 +0000 http://www.mozealous.com/?p=847#comment-2337 I'd just like to add that I'm not anti-Flash, I'm anti-<i>Flash-as-a-first-option</i>. I completely understand there are things you can do in Flash that are pretty much impossible in HTML, and that's a-ok with me. My biggest beef with the e-learning industry is that they tend to go all-in with Flash, instead of using it only for those special items -- interactions, screen simulations, animated charts, etc. -- that can't be done with HTML and JavaScript. I’d just like to add that I’m not anti-Flash, I’m anti-Flash-as-a-first-option. I completely understand there are things you can do in Flash that are pretty much impossible in HTML, and that’s a-ok with me. My biggest beef with the e-learning industry is that they tend to go all-in with Flash, instead of using it only for those special items — interactions, screen simulations, animated charts, etc. — that can’t be done with HTML and JavaScript.

]]> By: Dave Mozealous http://www.mozealous.com/why-flash-on-the-iphoneipad-doesnt-solve-mlearning/comment-page-1/#comment-2335 Dave Mozealous Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:22:29 +0000 http://www.mozealous.com/?p=847#comment-2335 Hey Bruce, Thanks for the comments. I can't comment about what products or what will be in the future versions of Articulate's products, but as an FYI, some of our products do already support HTML5. Screenr for example uses HTML5 if it detects that the browser is an iPhone/iPod touch and then uses HTML5 for displaying the video. There was a good post the other day by Christopher Blizzard (of Mozilla fame) about HTML 5 video and H.264 that explains some of the licensing problems with H.264 (as H.264 is a proprietary format) being the standard for HTML 5 video. It is worth checking out: http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/2010/01/html5-video-and-h-264-what-history-tells-us-and-why-were-standing-with-the-web/ -Dave Hey Bruce,

Thanks for the comments.

I can’t comment about what products or what will be in the future versions of Articulate’s products, but as an FYI, some of our products do already support HTML5. Screenr for example uses HTML5 if it detects that the browser is an iPhone/iPod touch and then uses HTML5 for displaying the video.

There was a good post the other day by Christopher Blizzard (of Mozilla fame) about HTML 5 video and H.264 that explains some of the licensing problems with H.264 (as H.264 is a proprietary format) being the standard for HTML 5 video. It is worth checking out:
http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/2010/01/html5-video-and-h-264-what-history-tells-us-and-why-were-standing-with-the-web/

-Dave

]]> By: Bruce Robinson http://www.mozealous.com/why-flash-on-the-iphoneipad-doesnt-solve-mlearning/comment-page-1/#comment-2333 Bruce Robinson Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:48:44 +0000 http://www.mozealous.com/?p=847#comment-2333 " @Philip really good points. One problem I see is that there are things that are possible in Flash that aren’t possible in HTML5, like what software simulation tools offer, you can’t produce the interactivity with HTML5 video, and trying to build something similar in pure HTML/CSS/JS seems nearly impossible. But as for decreasing the reliance on proprietary formats, totally." If Flash is not the future and already seems to have " a sell by date", and HTML 5 can't do the job at the moment, where is Articulate going to ensure it maintains its premier position in the e/m learning arena? ” @Philip really good points. One problem I see is that there are things that are possible in Flash that aren’t possible in HTML5, like what software simulation tools offer, you can’t produce the interactivity with HTML5 video, and trying to build something similar in pure HTML/CSS/JS seems nearly impossible. But as for decreasing the reliance on proprietary formats, totally.”

If Flash is not the future and already seems to have ” a sell by date”, and HTML 5 can’t do the job at the moment, where is Articulate going to ensure it maintains its premier position in the e/m learning arena?

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